“All I meant by that was more people have died in America from AIDS than have died from a terrorist attack,” Kern said. “That’s what I meant.
“When there’s a terrorist attack, it destroys people’s lives and property, buildings. I believe that the homosexual agenda is destroying the moral fiber of this nation.”
Colmes said that being gay does not make one inherently evil.
“Because of the Christian worldview that I have, I do believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle that doesn’t have God’s blessing,” Kern said.
Although Kern told Colmes she had some liberal friends she considered to be “fine Christians,” she still believes left-wingers are attacking religious conservatism. Kern said morality is being legislated every time a bill is signed into law.
“I don’t want to force Christianity down anybody’s throat,” she said.
“Jesus never did that. … But I believe that our Founding Fathers established this nation based upon biblical principles.”
Colmes argued that the Founding Fathers were deists who didn’t legislate their religious views into law. They didn’t talk about homosexuality … and neither did Jesus.
“Jesus didn’t have to talk about homosexuality because he continually reaffirmed marriage as being between one man and one woman,” she said in response.
Colmes said he didn’t get why Kern compares gay marriage to bestiality, pedophilia or group marriage because no one’s asking to marry animals or children.
“Gays have been fighting for the same rights as straights,” he said.
“Same-sex marriage will definitely open up the door to other types of marriage,” Kern responded.
Colmes asked Kern if she wanted to outlaw gay activity.
“For years, gay activity, gay behavior was outlawed,” she said.
“I would rather it be back in the closet the way it used to be. The reason they had laws against is because of the consequences that gay activity has.”
Kern then said she would make sodomy illegal.
“So oral sex should be illegal?” Colmes asked.
“I’m talking about a relationship between a man and a man or a woman and a woman,” Kern responded.
“All right, so oral sex would be OK for straights but not for gays? I want to be clear here about what you’re advocating.”
“You’re a master at this debate stuff,” Kern conceded.